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Checking in on July 25 [Jul. 25th, 2008|10:10 pm]
alt.tv.x-files, the old generation


Helloooo, is anybody reading this? I haven't been around anything XF related in quite some time. I haven't used Usenet in ages. Hell, this computer's OE isn't even properly set up with my ISP's newsgroup server because I've never felt particularly compelled to figure it out. But back in the day, I was pretty active in ATXF. Not one of the star, top posters; but moderately active I think. I'm Teddi Litman, the pediatric dentist from Miami. Yes, I used my real name pretty freely on the internet back then. Which could have been perhaps potentially embarrassing at some point. If a patient's parent wanted to Google me for some reason, they would have found more XF related links than anything related to dentistry or my practice back then. (Though, as you can see obviously, I still don't care *that* much.) Does anyone remember me? I glanced over this community's member's list; and saw a few familiar names/handles.

I see this community isn't particularly active ... no posts since last March hmm. Still, I stumbled across it today so I figure maybe a few other old ATXFers might also wander by soon as well. So I figured I'd try and say hi.  ATXF and the XF fandom was really my last great fandom membership in a sense. Oh, I'm still an internet junkie (proud new owner of a 3G iPhone so now my addiction is fully portable) and I've lingered around the edges of other fandoms, groups, communities what have you; but I've never been quite as completely involved ... um ... obsessed as I was back then.

Yes, I saw the movie today; and yes, I loved it. And yes, I know most of the critics so far have given it the thumbs down and some of those critics are claiming to be fans. My first thought of that as the movie ended: "Oh, those critics must have noromos." And then, "Actually, this film is a noromo nightmare. Good thing I'm a shipper. ;)" And then I thought about how strange it was that those thoughts popped into my head; because I had almost forgotten there were shippers and noromos and how contentious things often got between us and how weirdly important it all seemed back then ... and then, in a flash, it all came back to me! It was a pleasantly nostalgic moment.

So anyway, to all the shippers and noromos and even that strange little contingent that liked Doggett and Reyes ... HI!!!!! If you're out there, maybe you'll say hi back. :D

[User Picture]From: aevalin
2008-07-26 03:17 am (UTC)
Well I think those who know me will agree that I'm what could be termed a Noromo - and my issues with the movie had nothing to do with the relationship - it was more with the X-File itself. It was kinda lacking. And the writing was a bit well - loose. But hell, I got to see who I wanted to see so that made it better :) Plus there were Nuns. Which made all of us OBSSE members awful damned happy.

(PS I went by Reade - I know a few of you out there :P)
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[User Picture]From: niseag03
2008-07-26 07:34 am (UTC)
Agreed! I liked the characters and their interactions. But I thought the plot and XF in itself lacked.

I went by DSC1110 back in the day. I was a very occasional poster.
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[User Picture]From: verlindahenning
2008-07-26 11:37 pm (UTC)
Nuns! Pedophile priests! Pass-the-buck hospital administrator priests! Bleeding eye sockets!

The X-File itself may have been lacking, but the threads connecting the movie and TXF's past made sense to me.
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[User Picture]From: daybreaq
2008-07-27 02:35 am (UTC)
Ah, but don't you know, to us shippers the X-File was always secondary to the Mulder/Scully stuff. ;)

I'm being only partially facetious here. Really, a number of the individual episode's "A-plots" were pretty stupid at worst and a bit ... holey at best if you thought about them too hard. The mytharc was a complete and total mess by the series end. The reason I loved the show was the characters. As I used to say back then, "The X-Files" was really a character driven show in a plot driven show's clothing.

Though I do admit, the actual crime investigated wasn't even an X-File at all. And, despite all Chris Carter's promises, it wasn't particularly scary. A bit eeww, yuck gross but I never was particularly scared ... and I tend to be a bit of a wimp in scary movies. I can't say that bothered me too much; because as I just said, I'm a wimp. I end up seeing a lot of scary movies ... usually because friends drag me; but I'm not sure I really *enjoy* them. I often am intensely curious about the *mystery* presented in a scary movie. This mystery is usually offered in the teaser. Even though the completed film often has no real mystery, scary film teasers have this way of presenting the plot as some intriging mystery that you HAVE to find out what it's about. Thank God for Wikipedia! It has saved me from seeing a bunch of movies I KNOW I never would have enjoyed. With "The Happening" and "The Strangers" for example, I just read the wiki when the movie came out, settled my curiousity about what the films were actually about and saved myself some torture that wouldn't even have been worth it. I think I appreciate the skill it takes for a filmmaker to make me scared; but I don't particularly enjoy being scared. Strange again, that I liked TXF so much since there were a several genuinely scary episodes. I guess I do recognize though that this film not being that scary IS kinda a flaw even though I sorta appreciated the flaw.

I did appreciate how pretty much everything about the plot was a parallel or symbolic or whatever to what was going on with Mulder and Scully.

Is faith and spirituality really an X-File? I'm not sure. Though, as Verlinda pointed out (I got to respond directly to her post next.), it was an important aspect of the original series. Of course, as an OBSSE member, you knew that already. Saint Scully triumphs! :D

Now while I found the Russian head transplant farm (Why did that guy keep taking women as bodies for his partner anyway? If he's gay, then he should want to keep him male. Shouldn't he? Oh, I really shouldn't think about this ...) more gross than creepy, what I found to be seriously creepy was that hospital Scully worked in. What was up with that?! I did get the point that sending the kid away meant they weren't going to try to treat him anymore; but I couldn't help thinking that maybe getting him out of there wasn't such a bad idea. That maybe he's get better if he wasn't in such a totally creepy place.
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[User Picture]From: verlindahenning
2008-07-26 11:35 pm (UTC)
Hi! Of course I remember you--and of course I've seen the movie. I loved the storyline--it played so beautifully into the issues of faith and belief that were so important over the run of this show.

I'm so glad it was a MOTW though--because another mytharc movie would have sent me running screaming. The shippiness almost did, but the XF fan in me won out and I'm glad it did. Of course, I was slightly nauseated afterwards, but I feel better now. ;)

Great to hear from you!

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[User Picture]From: daybreaq
2008-07-27 02:23 am (UTC)
I find myself a tiny bit torn. I kinda want to be bugged that the people (and ALIENS) who wanted Mulder dead in the finale would just let it go so he can help find some FBI agent that shouldn't matter to them in slightest; and that neither Mulder and Scully were acting as if the world as they knew it was going to end in four years. However, since I feel all that was the culmination of a storyline that just turned into goo, a big part of me feels it's probably best that they did kinda ignore it all.

I also liked how faith triumphed over organized religion and religious leaders. As I mentioned to Reade in my response: seriously creepy Catholic hospital! It would have probably been more fair if some other organized religions also got a beating; but of course, it's well established Scully was raised Catholic so I guess it had to be.
And then there's also the theme of maintaining the faith in the people you've chosen as well as spiritual faith which worked beautifully in this story. And, as always, whenever Mulder and Scully separate, BAD THINGS happen!

And regardless of whether or not you believe Mulder and Scully should do things like kiss, lie in bed together and say the L-word (Squee! ;)), it was THEM, there on the screen! Not just some people who looked like them. They're back! We had sunflower seeds and pencils in the ceiling too! All the little subtle nuances that made them Mulder and Scully were there. One of my favorite moments was when Skinner tries to assure Scully that Mulder won't do anything crazy; and she just gives him a look. Priceless!

And not to let it go by without a specific mention: Skinner himself! Just when I thought he wouldn't show up, there he was! And he was badass! So it was brief; but I'll take brief, badass Skinner. Mitch looked really good too.

I think they faked us out a bit with the Amanda Peet and Xzibit characters in the pre-film buzz ... making us think they'd be more important that they actually turned out to be. I was totally thrilled that this was the case though I was a bit surprised they killed her off and he turned out to be a jerk who failed to follow through. It opened the door for badass Skinner and his real balls! Yay!
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[User Picture]From: bs0d
2008-07-27 05:22 pm (UTC)
I remember you, but don't remember that you were a shipper. I guess I tend to block bad stuff like that out. ;-)

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[User Picture]From: daybreaq
2008-07-27 06:15 pm (UTC)
{giggles ... waves ... and blows a kiss} ;)
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From: (Anonymous)
2008-09-01 12:53 pm (UTC)

Still here

Loved the movie and hoping against hope for another. I'm still out here and still irrationally daydreaming about X-files. We must be nuts.
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